Posts by Disposable Hero

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What a month, I need help!

by Disposable Hero in

i have not been on here for awhile, so much has happened.

some may remember my story in which i did a lot of research on the society and never joined.

i knew when i was dealing with the elders i had stumped them many times.

I have not been on here for awhile, so much has happened. Anyways, here is my story. Some may remember my story in which I did a lot of research on the society and never joined. I knew when I was dealing with the elders I had stumped them many times. With many of my questions they just told me to write the society. The thing was I knew what the answers were. (UN scandal, trinity brochure, etc.) When I finished my discussion with the elders I told them many times that I believe in God and the Bible, my problem is with following men.I never heard a peep from the elders for half a year. Then just 2 weeks ago I visited my 85 yearold aunt who is a witness. The elders came to her and told her I joined a cult and I don't believe in God. I told her this is totally untrue; she wondered why the elders would do this. I told her I didn't know as to not to upset her( I believe the real reason is because the elders do not want me to associate with any witness)

This upsets me a bit in that the elders have done this but this is not my main problem. A day after this a girl I have known my whole life came out to visit family.She lives 10 hours away She is single,23 with 2 kids and is witness.(same age as me) She has same life story as me ; mom was a witness, dad wasn't. We both grew up knowing what the witnesses taught, but opted not to become witnesses after school. She went back to the witnesses 2 years ago after a very bad relationship and now her life is stable. We always have had feelings for each other, but we never acted upon them until 2 weeks ago when we got together. Our feelings for each other are so strong. But she doesn't want a husband who is not a witness, that is the one thing between us. I told her a lot of the things the society has done,and why I believe they are not the true religion they say they are. She has said she will look these things up. I also told her about the cult thing and how it isn't fair to me.( guess it would be true if I became a witness) Her mother is a strong witness and has always been very fond of me, but she is a little disturbed that I have chosen to not become a witness. But she said she is willing to talk to me about my questions. How can I approach this situation? I know some of you will say run Forrest run, but I am one who will not run from any challenge. I really love this girl ( i see much of my mother in her;who passed away 2 years ago ) She is extremely beautiful, when she smiles my heart just melts, I could go on and on. She has said the same about me. What can I do? What should I do? Please help!

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upcoming confrontation with JW, need advice

by Disposable Hero in

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friends

sometime in june i will be put in a situation where i will be one on one with a witness.

(you could say i will be cornered) but i am actually looking forward to this.

this witness thought i was a great person even before i studied, but then after i found out about the truth she believes that i'm being misled by satan so now she is going to talk to me.

Disposable Hero

Thanks for all the replies. When this all comes down I will for sure post it so you all know what happened.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

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upcoming confrontation with JW, need advice

by Disposable Hero in

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friends

sometime in june i will be put in a situation where i will be one on one with a witness.

(you could say i will be cornered) but i am actually looking forward to this.

this witness thought i was a great person even before i studied, but then after i found out about the truth she believes that i'm being misled by satan so now she is going to talk to me.

Disposable Hero

Sometime in June I will be put in a situation where I will be one on one with a witness. (you could say I will be cornered) But I am actually looking forward to this. This witness thought I was a great person even before I studied, but then after I found out about the truth she believes that I'm being misled by Satan so now she is going to talk to me. She has been a witness for many years and knows her witness stuff. I have done lot's of research on the society (library, internet, kingdom hall) so I guess I know my witness stuff too. But this is a situation I have never been in and I am not sure how to approach this. She does not have a computer, but where we will meet, there will be. So I was thinking of asking questions such as "does the society knowingly lie to their own people?" "are people being hurt because the society is protecting themselves and not helping there own people?" And then show the proof.

should I ask questions about the Bible like "why does the society take the place of Jesus?" "who are the translators of the NWT?" or any question that would make this person really think about there answer.

Or should I say " I know more about the history of the witnesses than all of the elders in your congregation put together" Then I would prove it. (This actually happend to me while I was asking questions with 2 elders with about 60 years of experience between both of them. I asked the question "was Jesus second coming first taught to be 1874?" The one elder said "No, I don't think so" He was cut off by the other elder quickly and this guy said that it was indeed taught, but then changed to 1914. He had no clue when this change occurred. I thought to myself this is interesting that one didn't know this and the other did not know when the change occurred. Then being my sneaky self I asked " was 1920 the year the prophets of old were to be resurrected and a house was built for them?" The first elder was in over his head and did not say anything, the second elder agreed with the year and that this was taught, but said that there was never a house built for them. I said are you sure? He said he knew his history really well. I could have had lot's of fun at this point, but I choose not to.)

Since we will have access to the internet, I'm thinking the best site to go to would be the quotes site, if I can only get her there to look at it. Any advice from personal experiences to just plain old commentary would be appreciated.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

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http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/

by DazedAndConfused in

what is up with the site lately?

first i get a basic blue site that is unoike what i have encountered before and now ai am getting a complete site but it is so small that i cannot read what the links are, and mouse-overs do not work.

Disposable Hero

I had trouble yesterday getting to your site. But I just tried today and everything is working great. I am currently using netscape 6.2, and windows 95. So hopefully the site is also now working for everybody else.
Again THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOU SITE.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

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Can you guess which organization this is?

by PopeOfEruke in

i received this in an email and i wondered what the figures would refelct if such a survey was done on the gb and the lawyers who now run the watchtower.. the pope.

can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 300. employees and has the following statistics:.

- 30 have been accused of spousal abuse.

Disposable Hero

And everybody thinks living in Canada is great. Well, it is, but it would be better if we did not have a bunch of assclowns running our country. And to think this what they have been caught with. What have they gotten away with? I only say this if the source is true.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

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British music rocks, It's official (rebuttal)

by Preston in

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friends

never ever, ever confuse greatness with popularity.

compared to music here in the u.s. british music is as good as it gets.

it's true that bands like pulp, suede, blur, oasis, manic street preachers, rarely get any airplay here in the states, but that's all i listen too.

Disposable Hero

You can not also forget the NWOBHM ( new wave of british heavy metal) in the early 80's. True it did not last long, but it's effects are felt until this day. And bands like Iron Maidon (gasp! with all the beasts on the cover) still kick ass.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

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No online Bible on Watchtower site, Why?

by pseudoxristos in

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the publication and distribution of bibles and bible literature by jehovah's witnesses is part of a worldwide bible educational work that is supported by voluntary donations.. .

emphasis added.

interesting statement just above the picture of the new world translation.. i never thought about it, but if the watchtower is so interested in worldwide bible education, then why don't they have an online version of the nwt?.

Disposable Hero

I've wondered too, why is there not a Bible and all of their works on the Watchtower site. They have the money and the cheap labour to do it. Like SixofNine mentioned, the best communication tool for information is right now, and the Watchtower society will not use it. It would be cheaper for every witness if the society published their works on the net. But you know what, the society could not ask witnesses to donate money for the printing process, because there would not be any printing process. So the society would lose their bread and butter if they printed their stuff on the net.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

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Did anyone see the Discovery Channel special last?

by crownboy in

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i saw it at my cousin's house last night, it was very interesting.

it traced the lineage of man back to the "real eve", who lived somewhere in africa about 150,000 years ago.

they were able to make this determination by reading the "mitocondrial dna" of humans; looking for mutations, etc.

Disposable Hero

Running Man

I saw the program you mentioned where Ezekial may have encounted a UFO. I believe the program was called Mysteries of the Bible. (I could be wrong about the title) also on this program was a theory that Jesus did not die on the cross, but actually moved to France and had a family. Another part of the program was that maybe Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed by a nuclear exposion.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

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Would you kiss up to your boss to get ahead?

by butalbee in

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this is a question, that i am very curious about, wondering or pondering, thinking if some people would kiss up to their bosses to get ahead in the company that they were employed in; to get a raise, or a promotion, and then i'm thinking of the 'special treatment' clause if you had a personally relationship w/ your supervisor?

i guess w/ my present day situation the thought has crossed my mind, and i can't help but wonder this...if one particular person is "using" me to advance his career.

this is a jw issue, cuz this person is a jw.

Disposable Hero

I think hard work and a good personality among other qualities are what will further you to get ahead. You don't want to kiss up to your boss because that approach can be risky and may even backfire on you. Your work may suffer if are brownosing and your boss may realise that you are brownosing and might frown upon that. You do want to have a good relationship with your boss. But everbodys situation is different. For me personally, my boss told me at the staff X-mas party that she would be in her glory if I were to date her daughter. And I can honestly say that I never really kissed ass. Well, maybe I did a little, but not to get ahead, just to get....well I won't say.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself

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Are the 144,000 special in any way?

by Disposable Hero in

what is the difference between one of the annointed and r&f witness?

seems the only difference is that they get to eat and drink one more time during the year compared to a regular witness.

if they were so special wouldn't god use them differently than a r&f witness?

Disposable Hero

What is the difference between one of the annointed and R&F witness? Seems the only difference is that they get to eat and drink one more time during the year compared to a regular witness. If they were so special wouldn't God use them differently than a R&F witness? I would like to see a comment from a witnesses perspective.

You lie so much you believe yourself
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself